Comments: Fake CDC and COC – How it is ruining the reputation of the Mariners

From: <forkanul49@aol.co.uk>
Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:12 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fraud & Trust in Bangladedshi Seafaring Officers
To: captshafiqbhuiyan@gmail.com, baten18@gmail.com, zillur.bhuiyan@gmail.com

All

 

The attached paper/submission is from the Secretariat of IMO/HTW2 session for February Sub-committee meeting.

 

I have been observing that there has been steady rise in the use of fraudulent certificates by Bangladeshi Officers. This is another factor that has an ill effect on employment and act as deterrent. It will play into the hands of critics and other nations vying for higher employment.

 

This area needs to be addressed & looking into and; every attempt must be made to stop this happening. I hope Forum will be able to put this in their future Agenda.

 

Kind regards.

 

Forkanul Quader (6th N)

 

 

From: Zillur Rahman Bhuiyan <zillur.bhuiyan@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fraud & Trust in Bangladedshi Seafaring Officers
To: forkanul49@aol.co.uk
Cc: Shafiq Bhuiyan <captshafiqbhuiyan@gmail.com>, “Baten M.A.” <baten18@gmail.com>

Dear Sir,

Assalaamu Alaikum,

You have identified one of the vital reasons of lack of employment of Bangladeshi seafarers. After the visa issue the next important one is the fake documentation both in CDC and CoC.  Even visa matter is resolved it will be again imposed for fake documentation.

 

Yesterday after an IMarEST seminar this matter was discussed and next agenda of Maritime Forum is going to be the solving of fake documentation matter of Bangladeshi seafarers.

 

Kind regards

Zillur

 

 

Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:55 AM
To: bdmariners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [BDMariners] Fake CDC & CoC

 

Respected senior sir & fellow mariners, Good day. \

At first I like to give thanks to our respected Zillur sir & Baten sir to talk with us regarding our problems. Fake CDC & COC is like a cancer in our profession. We can’t get a permanent solution, without solving this issue. Again & again it will destroy other solutions like Visa issue as well as the fame of our country.

As we (junior officers) are at the very beginning of our profession, regarding any matter we are like child in front our senior sir’s experience. So we only raised our voice & highlighted our problems. I would like to request all our respected seniors from any corners to help us to solve those problems. As we have our seniors in every stages of our Govt. office like DG shipping, Shipping Office, so we hope they can give us effective advice regarding this.

1.     * Implementation of SID check post in airports could be an effective one, but it should be mandatory (not NOC).
2.      *Online verification of CDC , Voyage data & COC should be implemented & 100 % updated.
3.      *Meantime digital CDC & COC implementation should be in progress.

This all already discussed before, I would like to add one more thing.

As association of manning agencies are included in BD marine forum, we can talk with them. At least to keep the name of our motherland they should take some action about this. Also the concern authority should supervise & investigate this Fake CDC & COC issue. Brokers & agencies related to this issue should get an exemplary punishment & license should be ceased permanently. Seafarers engaged with this, should get exemplary punishment & all certificates should be ceased.

We know that corruption is a common word in Bangladeshi life. But I believe; only our united effort can give a solution.

Many thanks with kind regards

Tanmoy Roy (45 N)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Baten Bhai,

 

AWRB. May I suggest to introduce Seaman ID card, like VISA credit card, which is printed with photographs n computer readable chips. I know the person who is currently supplying to international banks.

 

It’s touch scannable, which will contain personal data. It will be more secure and as good as Australian Maritime Security Identification Card (MSIC), as you may know, every single person including seafarers working in Australian water fronts require to have it with maximum validity of 4 years.

 

For our seaman, it might be costly, therefore, VISA type card will be more appropriate and cost effective.

 

 

Wassalaam,

Capt. Razzak A. Syed

For Australian Marine Surveys

Mobile: 61-413 611 764

Visit our website for details: www.amsmelbourne.com.au

 

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On 15 Dec 2014, at 14:20, baten <baten18@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All, Assalaamu Alaikum,

I would like to invite all our Respected Seniors (Starting from our Pioneer Batch, Shafi Sir, Zahedur Sir) and Beloved Juniors (Including 48th Batch) to post all your ideas how to tackle this burning issues of Fake Documents (CDC & CoC).

Please contribute your ideas so that our Maritime Forum can formulate their action plan based on all our ideas.

1) In addition to our present on-line CDC & CoC verification, is it required to implement machine readable CDC & CoC?

2) Is it also required to have SID (Seamen ID) readable machine at the airport?

3) Practical possibilities of implementation basis cost involved.
Please participate with your valuable ideas & help to build our Marine Community’s future.

With Kind Regards

Baten (18th Batch), Singapore

BDMariners.org – an effort to create global bonding for BD Mariners.

 

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From: baten <baten18@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:16 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fraud & Trust in Bangladedshi Seafaring Officers
To: “bdmariners@googlegroups.com” <bdmariners@googlegroups.com>

Salam Zillur Sir, Forkanul Sir,

Yesterday we have discussed this burning issue of fake CDC & CoC, in which few of our fellow Junior Mariners (45th, 46th, 47th & 48th Batch) were also present with us. I was present with Zillur Sir along with Sarwar (19th) & Masud (21st).
It is prudent for all of us to address both the issues (VISA issues & Fake Documentation issues) urgent basis for the betterment of our entire Marine Community.

Kind Regards

Baten (18th)
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:34 AM
To: bdmariners@googlegroups.com; baten18@gmail.com; zillur.bhuiyan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [BDMariners] Fwd: Fraud & Trust in Bangladedshi Seafaring Officers

 

I think this is a new problem (May be 2/3 years old). This has to be stopped with any cost. I have heard In Agrabad area some miscreants are making  this fake documents and our people(Mariner) are using  those. It will not be difficult to catch them but putting them behind the bar, Govt. concern  authority should come forward.

 

 

Shakil (14)

 

On Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:08 PM, forkanul49 via Bangladeshi Mariners <bdmariners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Dear Zillur & Baten

 

 

AssA wr wb

 

Thank you for taking a timely initiative to address this.

 

Kind regards.

 

Forkanul Quader (6th )

 

From: baten <baten18@gmail.com>
To: bdmariners <bdmariners@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:16
Subject: [BDMariners] Fwd: Fraud & Trust in Bangladedshi Seafaring Officers

Salam Zillur Sir, Forkanul Sir,

Yesterday we have discussed this burning issue of fake CDC & CoC, in which few of our fellow Junior Mariners (45th, 46th, 47th & 48th Batch) were also present with us. I was present with Zillur Sir along with Sarwar (19th) & Masud (21st).
It is prudent for all of us to address both the issues (VISA issues & Fake Documentation issues) urgent basis for the betterment of our entire Marine Community.

Kind Regards

Baten (18th)